As part of the Excellence in Quality blog, we met with Richelle Paulsen, the QA Director at Cetera Financial Group, to discuss the role of QA in supporting Cetera’s growth.
Context: Over the past five years, Cetera has grown from approximately 7,000 advisors and 1,300 employees supporting $242 billion of assets under administration (“AUA”) in 2018 to approximately 12,000 advisors and 2,800 employees supporting $475 billion of AUA today. In October 2023, Cetera announced a reinvestment from its main investor – Genstar Capital, a leading private equity firm, to expand its business further. “This reinvestment from Genstar affirms Cetera’s proven ability to create value,” said Cetera Holdings CEO Mike Durbin.
Richelle, thank you for finding time for this interview. During the last five years, Cetera made several acquisitions in the wealth management business (Avantax, Securian, Voya, to name a few). At the same time, the firm has been actively developing its IT solutions to improve the experience of its clients. To me, it looks like upgrading a plane in mid-flight while adding more passengers. How do you manage to maintain top-quality standards in such a dynamic environment?
Richelle: We operate in a very challenging environment. I would like to start with the part of your question about the tech upgrade of Cetera platforms.
There are several challenges that we face when shipping our updates to production:
Wow, that’s a huge list! How do you address all these challenges?
You must have several things in place:
You should have quite a strong QA team to fulfill all these requirements. How is it structured? Do you rely on your employees? Do you use vendors?
At Cetera, we use a mix of our staff and third-party resources. Allied Testing has been our main QA partner since 2014. We’ve come a long way together, starting with building QA processes and driving all the “Shift Left” initiatives I mentioned earlier.
With a strong team and the right methodology, we significantly reduced the time to market for our applications and plan to improve it even more.
I imagine gathering the right team and building all processes took plenty of time. Let’s talk a bit more about the M&A challenges. Cetera has recently made several acquisitions of other wealth management companies, with the subsequent migration of their advisors to its platforms. Every M&A is a complicated story—from the IT perspective, it only starts when the deal is done. Each deal has many hidden technological risks. How do you approach them and ensure successful delivery from a quality perspective?
Richelle: This is an interesting question. M&A projects, by nature, have their complexities:
So, what is your secret recipe for successfully delivering an M&A project?
Richelle: This recipe has many ingredients, but if you gather all of them, a positive outcome is inevitable. Here is what you need:
After several acquisitions, we formed a so-called M&A SWAT team. This team consists of the most knowledgeable subject matter experts in each field. Every time a new acquisition comes, they jump on it and start analyzing, planning, assessing risks, forming teams, and doing everything needed for successful delivery. We organize our work in a very efficient way – we can inflate our QA team during acquisitions and release excessive resources when the migration is finished.
Based on what I hear, you have already gained much acquisition experience and know all the ins and outs of this process. I have a question, however. I doubt you had all this knowledge during your first M&A. How did you develop this methodology?
Richelle: After each M&A, we analyze the lessons learned and consider how to do it more efficiently next time. More importantly, I have very strong support from the Executives to modify the QA team as needed and make adjustments whenever I see any inefficiencies in the processes. This helps us to be very flexible and quickly learn from our previous transactions. As a result, our organization is getting stronger with every new acquisition. Our processes are improving; our teams collaborate better, we have new integrations with broker-dealers, and our range of services for the clients is growing.
That was very insightful. Thank you! You mentioned using Allied Testing as a QA partner. Can you elaborate more on your requirements for the QA vendor and how you build the relationships that allow you to deliver such complex projects?
Richelle: Sure. In my career, I have used several vendors, and with time I came to certain principles that allow me to build very productive relationships with a vendor:
And the final question for today. Given the current excitement around AI, I’m curious to know if your team has begun experimenting with AI technologies?
Yes, we already have several working groups analyzing how AI can improve the productivity of the SDLC and the QA team. The results of this analysis look very promising. Still, given that we operate in a very regulated environment, we collaborate with Legal, Security, Infrastructure, and other teams to assess all solutions.
Richelle, thank you for this interview! This was very insightful. I wish you and Cetera all the best with future acquisitions and further business growth!
Cetera Financial Group, which is owned by Cetera Holdings (collectively, Cetera), is the premier financial advisor Wealth Hub where financial advisors and institutions optimize their control and value creation. Breaking away from a commoditized and homogenous IBD model, Cetera offers financial professionals and institutions the latest solutions, support, and services to grow, scale, or transition with a merger, sale, investment, or succession plan. Cetera proudly serves independent financial advisors, tax professionals, licensed administrators, large enterprises, as well as institutions, such as banks and credit unions, providing an established and repeatable blueprint for scalable growth.
Allied Testing, a company founded in 2000, is a leading QA and testing specialist firm with the main focus on the capital markets, trading and finance industry. Over the years we have earned a reputation of premiere application quality management specialists. We work with CIOs, VPs of Development and Quality Directors to improve stability and resilience of their systems, develop or fine-tune QA and sourcing strategies, and take on non-trivial testing tasks, while driving down costs.
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